Friday, November 14, 2025

Constipation/ Because the Poop has to come out

 We have done prior posts about poop.Baby poop 101

Poop and Solid Foods

The titles are pretty self explanatory. This post picks up on the next chapter.

Believe it or not, one day your kids will be completely out of diapers. While the age varies greatly from child to child, at some point the day will come when they no longer want you to wipe their butt.

The years pass and at some point you tend to lose track of your child’s bowel movements, which is why constipation can sneak up on you. It’s important to know the signs.

Recognizing constipation

Infants who go 5-6 days in between nice soft poops? That isn’t constipation.

Medically, constipation is defined as infrequent, difficult, or painful passage of stools, typically fewer than three bowel movements per week, or stools that are hard, dry, or difficult to poop out. In children, it may also include voluntary withholding or large, painful poops leading to discomfort or avoidance. This very often manifests with abdominal pain.

Discomfort that come from constipation tends to be very sharp, but also intermittent. Sometimes the pain can radiate to other parts of the body.

But we never want to ignore other possibilities. Get medical attention if the pain is steady or your child isn’t able to walk, run, jump, or play due to the pain. Don’t delay seeking care if severe belly pain is associated with a fever, vomiting, or copious diarrhea.

Because tummy aches often seem to be poop related, most health professionals are going to want rule out constipation right off the bat. They are going to want to know the frequency and consistency of the stools.

Here is the tricky part. If your kid is really backed up (and it is unbelievable how much poop they can have inside of them) sometimes the solid poop can’t get through. What they will pass is some very runny substance that leaks around the solid mass of the impacted stool. This thin stool often leaks uncontrollably in little smears, a condition called encopresis.

Because the poop that is coming out is so runny, your first thought might be that your child has diarrhea. Sorry kids, but the parents now need to know way more than you might be comfortable sharing.

  • When was the most recent poop?

  • Was it normal size?

  • Smaller than usual?

  • How often are they pooping?

  • Are they sitting for a long time trying to get it to come out?

  • Are the stools coming out in little hard pieces? Do they look like rabbit pellets?

If your older child is feeling a little bit shy about it, consider having them take a picture. There is something called the Bristol Stool chart that can help with the description.

Source: https://www.continence.org.au/sites/default/files/styles/webp/public/images/Bristol_stool_chart_fin.png.webp?itok=Oc27kVNS

If you’re seeing type 1 or type 7, an adjustment must be made. Occasionally type 2 or 6 can be okay, but a good goal is types 3, 4, and 5.

Let’s do a little Nurse Judy Poop Math

Figure out how large your child’s average size stool might be. Let’s say it is the size of a hot dog. Now, assume that your child doesn’t have a BM for 3 days. For the next 6 days after that, they pass only 1/2 of a hot dog size poop. Within 9 days, just a bit over a week, they now have poop in there the size of 6 hot dogs. No wonder they are having a tummy ache!

It is time to sit and talk to your child about a very important rule.

There are many choices that we will face in our lives with very few incontrovertible truths, but this is one of them: THE POOP HAS TO COME OUT! Have your younger kid play with some play dough and a toilet paper tube. Only a certain amount can fit through before something rips. Not pooping is not an option.

Parents can take a look at this little video The Poo in You and see if you think it might be a good teaching tool for your child.

Why Do People Get Constipated?

Evolutionarily, we were probably designed to eat tons of leaves, bark, and random roughage. We don’t do that anymore because we have too many easy options of more processed food (plus leaves and bark are hardly top choice these days, even for a vegetarian). But, if we want to pass poop like our body’s are supposed to, we need to approximate a diet that has the amounts of fiber that our bodies require.

Timing is also a factor. The body tends to give a gentle notice that it is time to poop. If that is ignored, it often politely subsides. If that happens too often, the body no longer responds properly to the signals.

Some little kids are having too much fun playing to listen to their bodies but the issue isn’t just that someone might be too busy to go.

Many people are creatures of habit and like to go poop in the privacy of their own bathrooms. This is especially true of school age children, but teenagers and adults are not immune. Add in the factor that younger children also might be actually afraid of public toilets. One inadvertent early flush from an automatic toilet when they are still sitting down and they become very reluctant to ever sit on one again.

If they happen to get off schedule and the urge hits them at an inconvenient time, they will often hold it until the sensation passes. Some kids become very adept at this and can hold onto a remarkable amount of stool. A new school or camp? No thank you, they will wait unto they get home, where they may or may not feel the need to go.

They might pass a tiny little hard pellet every day or so. If you ask them if they pooped, the answer will be “yes”.

And sometimes it’s just genetics. Some people just have the digestive short straw and suffer from “slow transit constipation.” These are the people whose parents and grandparents also suffer from a lifetime of constipation. The guts just move food slowly, so it dries out and firms up in transit.

If you recognize yourself in that category, fiber and fluids can still help to mitigate your situation! We also have more suggestions in a later section.

Step 1: Getting the poop out

After identifying that your child is backed up, you need to determine how much effort is going to be needed to unblock the constipation. For younger kids (sub 3-years-old) that have only skipped a day or two, it’s ok to try a full glass of prune juice (or a couple of ounces for infants). But more than 3 days typically requires a bigger intervention. All the prune juice in the world is not going to be able to blast through a week’s worth of hard stool.

Massage and a warm bath are good starting points. Some kids actually may be able to pass some stool while in the tub because they are relaxed. I know it sounds gross, but if you are ever in this situation with an utterly miserable child who is holding onto their poop as though it is a treasure, you will be happy to see them poop any way that you can make it happen. Some people find that adding a few teaspoons of either baking soda or epsom salts to the warm bath water can also help.

If they still haven’t pooped, it is time to try some glycerin into the butt. You have several options. A glycerin suppository is a hard stick of glycerin, usually found at most drugstores in the baby aisle. You can break off a piece, lube it up with some KY jelly, Vaseline or Aquaphor and just stick it in there. Hold the butt cheeks together so that your child doesn’t push it right back out. We promise you, it doesn’t hurt and it immediately melts in the rectum to become a soft lubricant.

Another option is a liquid glycerin called Pedialax. The directions on the box advise that these are for use in kids over 2, but I have no concern about using them on infants. With these, you end up inserting the lubricated tip of the applicator into the butt, squeeze in a small amount of liquid glycerin and then remove the applicator. They usually work some magic within 30 minutes.

For big, multi-day backups, a ‘clean out’ often includes adding higher-than-normal doses of Miralax (a stool softener that works by pulling water into the colon), or other laxatives, to flush everything out. There are many different recipes for a full clean out, and they’re all pretty safe. No, it’s not super fun for anyone involved, but it’s usually a much better option than letting stool build up to the point where it stretches out the rectum, causing even more long-term trouble.

Some parents get nervous about how much Miralax to use, how often to give it, or how to time it with meals and potty time. Keep in mind that most gastroenterologists will rely on Miralax, which is very safe in extremely high doses (parents that have had a colonoscopy drank liters of this to prepare).

There’s a lot of variation in how kids respond, but in general, clean-outs work best when you mix the Miralax with a favorite drink (milk, dilute juice, or water) and give a relatively large amount over several hours, ideally on a day when you’re sticking close to home. Don’t expect an immediate explosion (sometimes it takes 6, 12, or even 24 hours to really kick in).

Miralax Dosage: typically, for kids ages 4 and up, gastroenterologists will recommend a full cap (17 grams or about 1 heaping tablespoon) of Miralax, three times in a day, for one to two days. Each dose should be drunk with 8 oz of liquid. You can stop early if your child starts pooping real poop (clear or yellow liquid doesn’t count, it needs to be somewhat formed). After the first big poop, you still have some work to do. Time for step number two.

Step “number 2:” Reconditioning the muscles

Dr. Ted Tidbit:

After a large blockage, the rectal muscles are stretched out, especially if this has been going on for awhile. This is why a lot of young children aged 4-10 years will have accidents surrounding constipation. The stretched rectal muscles aren’t as strong as they should be. They can’t squeeze to hold poop in. After cleaning out a blockage, most rectums need at least a month of daily, soft, easy-to-pass stools to shrink back to an effective size. The stretching issue is illustrated below, and is the reason for step 2: coming up with a plan for very regular soft poops.

As stated above, once things are cleared out, the goal is to keep poop soft and regular every day so the whole cycle doesn’t start over. This is the MOST important consideration going forward after a blockageIf you do a one-time clean-out but don’t make an immediate change to get daily soft stools, the rectum will remain dilated and quickly refill with a blockage, often leading to abdominal pain and accidents.

In an ideal world, diets are changed at this point to incorporate fiber, water, and other good healthy habits, which leads to regular stools. We are realistic enough to know that many 4 to 10-year-olds don’t live in that ideal world.

These picky kids will likely need some supplementary boosts to keep daily soft stools while the rectum shrinks back down. Below are some things that we have seen work well for our patients to maintain a daily stool. Many kids will need more than one. Pick and choose the things that seem best for you and your child.

  • For a picky kid, many parents find that maintenance is easiest to do with Miralax, because it doesn’t require you to tame the beast of picky eating. You can start with 1 teaspoon of Miralax per year of life, daily, then increase by 1 tsp per day until you achieve the goal of daily soft stools. Don’t stress if you feel like you have overshot, you can just dial down the next day. We are perfectly happy if you do a daily adjustment of the dose depending on that day’s stool. If it feels like you are already achieving softer stool, it is okay to decrease the dose and perhaps skip a few days. The minute the poops become less frequent or more solid it will be time to bump back up the dose. In other words, the dose can be calculated based on the quality of the stool. Titrate the dose, but pay attention for the entire month.

  • Senna (Ex-lax) is another option. It’s a plant-derived stimulant laxative, and can be a useful add-on to some of the other options. It works by stimulating colon motility (squeezing the intestine muscles), typically producing a bowel movement within 6-12 hours. In young kids, senna technically may be used intermittently or in short bursts (e.g., a few days at a time) to “reset” the stooling pattern, especially after travel, illness, or periods of withholding. While effective, we don’t recommend senna for routine daily use long-term due to concerns about developing dependency or tolerance and, in rare cases, cramping or diarrhea. If senna is used regularly, it should be under the guidance of a pediatrician or GI specialist, with close monitoring for soft, daily stools and signs of overtreatment.

  • Prune juice or copious prune puree is another option, although this tends to be better at young ages. Prune juice includes some fermented sugars that don’t get absorbed in the intestines, so you don’t need to feel like you’re feeding a sugar bomb. You can incorporate prune puree into other foods. In terms of volumes, this is a bit of a shot in the dark, but we like to start with at least 1-3oz per day (even in young infants), which can be in a glass, added to other foods, or in a bottle.

  • Some people can find a mix of fiber gummies with water and probiotics. These can make a decent maintenance regimen when you find the right ones, but we don’t have a favorite product to recommend. Don’t forget a soft formed stool must be produced every day for weeks after a big backup. If you don’t get that, the rectum may stay dilated to accommodate a large stool. It needs to be given time to slowly shrink back to size! If fiber and probiotics with water aren’t giving you a daily stool, you really need to try one of the two above options.

  • Magnesium Make sure your child is getting enough magnesium. Natural Calm is a source that many folks like. An appropriate dose can get even the most stubborn gut moving. There is no way to “overdo” magnesium by eating magnesium rich foods, but you don’t want to take too much in a supplement form. Make sure it’s magnesium citrate if pooping is the goal.

Kids ages 4-8 can take 130mg/day; kids ages 9-13 can take 240mg/day.

The Natural Calm adult dose is 175 mg/tsp (mixed in other liquids.) Big kids can easily take 1 to 1-1/2 tsp. Smaller kids a bit less. If they take too much it might cause cramping. Start with a small dose and see if it helps. This also comes as a gummy!!!

Biofeedback

This, or pelvic floor therapy, can be very effective in treating stretched rectal muscles. With biofeedback, a therapist will lead you through breathing exercises, as well as muscle strengthening and relaxation exercises, in order to help you retrain the movement and coordination of your pelvic floor. Ask your doctor to help you find local resources. Unfortunately getting insurance to cover it can be right up there with passing a hard, enormous poop (as of this writing, UCSF does have some Bay-Area based providers that can do this).

Step 3: Maintenance

Chronic constipation is not a quick fix. As we mentioned, the first step is obviously to get rid of the poop, and then the muscles need some time to be retrained. Finally it is time to focus on making some adjustments to the diet where you can find the right balance moving forward.

Ongoing Dietary Management

Nurse Judy has the saying that you are the ‘conductor’ of the poop orchestra.

Some foods are binding, others will get the stools softer. Everyone’s system is a little bit different. Your job is to pay attention.

Alas, the favorite foods are often the starchy breads, cheese and pasta that do nothing but block them up even more. The BRAT diet (bananas/rice/applesauce/ toast) is what we use to firm up stools if a child has diarrhea. When dealing with constipation issues we will want to minimize those until they are having softer stools.

Some kids seem to have a much easier time if you eliminate milk. Try that for a week and see if it helps. If you do this, make sure they are getting enough calcium.

Below is a list of the top 10 most common constipation culprits:

  1. Cheese products – Cheese sticks, mac & cheese, pizza, and milk-heavy diets decrease colonic motility and add no fiber. Many of these have flours and starches added to keep them dry that can be very binding, just like the rice powders below.

  2. White rice and rice powders – Widely used in processed snacks (e.g., rice crisps, puffed rice crackers, toddler “puffs,” and gluten-free snack bars). These lack fiber and are binding.

  3. Bananas (especially underripe) – Contain resistant starch that slows stool transit.

  4. Processed snack foods – Chips, pretzels, Goldfish, and crackers are typically low in fiber and high in refined flour.

  5. White bread and refined grains – Sandwich bread, bagels, pancakes, and pasta made from refined flour.

  6. Snack bars and “granola” bars – Especially those with rice syrup, palm oil, or minimal true whole grains.

  7. Processed meats – Hot dogs, sausages, pepperoni, and lunch meats lack fiber and contain high salt, which can dehydrate stool.

  8. Fast food meals – Burgers, fries, and nuggets are low in fiber and high in fat, slowing gastric emptying.

  9. Excessive cow’s milk intake – More than 16–20 oz/day can be associated with constipation in children (common dietary factor).

  10. Chocolate and sweet treats – Candy, cocoa-rich snacks, and baked goods with refined flour and fat can slow bowel transit.

On the other hand, most fruits and veggies are great.

Below is a list of the top 10 best foods to incorporate for a regular stool. Notice the fiber content. Added fiber is discussed below, separately from many of these naturally high-fiber foods:

  1. Pears – Contain sorbitol (a fermented sugar alcohol that isn’t absorbed and pushes poop through) and high water content; softens stool naturally.

  2. Prunes or prune puree – High in sorbitol and fiber, clinically proven to improve stool frequency.

  3. Berries – Raspberries, blackberries, and strawberries add both soluble and insoluble fiber.

  4. Legumes – Lentils, beans, chickpeas; excellent plant fiber and prebiotic effect.

  5. Whole grains – Oatmeal, whole wheat bread, brown rice, quinoa; add bulk and water-holding fiber.

  6. Leafy greens and cruciferous vegetables – Spinach, kale, broccoli, cauliflower add bulk and magnesium.

  7. Sweet potatoes (with skin) – Soft fiber and water content aid regularity.

  8. Kiwi – Contains actinidin, which promotes GI motility; effective in pediatric and adult constipation.

  9. Avocado – Fiber plus healthy fats to lubricate stool.

  10. Pineapple, peeled grapes, figs and raw crunchy red peppers can be especially helpful additions to the diet.

If your kid is resistant, consider making these foods into a smoothie.

See if you can somehow hide some molasses, chia seeds and/or flaxseed oil in some oatmeal, pancakes or baked goods. Kids will often eat something if they have a hand in baking it.

Fiber is essential.

The usual rule of thumb is that a child should be consuming their age + 5 in grams of fiber (For instance, a 10 year old needs 15 grams of fiber, a 15 year old needs 20 grams of fiber per day). This is up to a maximum of the adult dose of 25-30 grams per day. It is important to make sure that all this fiber is washed down with lots of water. Too much added fiber and too little water will actually bulk up the stools and worsen constipation.

If you are finding it a little tricky trying to get enough fiber into their diet, try offering FiberOne bars, fiber gummies, fiber powders (Metamucil, benefiber, citrucel, etc) to get to their goals. Dr. Ted’s favorite added fiber is psyllium husk, which can make for a perfect daily poop, but causes constipation if taken with less than 8 oz of fluid at the same time (it can also clog your drain).

Staying well hydrated is another cornerstone

Make sure everyone is drinking plenty of healthy fluids. Sometimes simply the addition of extra water or prune juice are all that is needed to keep you on track. On the other hand, a few dry days of not drinking can set you back. Consider getting a water bottle that helps you measure and monitor the actual amounts. Typically, even for adults, if we don’t make a conscious effort, it is easy to not drink enough.

Do a daily dose of probiotics. These help keep a good balance of healthy bacteria in the gut which is good for digestion.

Routines (it’s not just what goes in your mouth)

Having a regular poop routine is helpful (particularly for boys who stand to pee). They should get into the habit of sitting on the toilet for 5 minutes at least 2 times per day, even if they don’t think they have to go to the bathroom.

Ideally this will be done after meals. Sitting on the toilet should be limited to 5 minutes or so, and there should be no straining! (Maybe take the ‘page turner’ book out of the bathroom.) After 5 minutes, It’s time to give up for the moment. - if they have the urge again, then they can sit back down after a break.

Posture and position

Physics make a difference! Go online and check out the Squatty Potty. Some of the reviews are quite amusing, but the overwhelming verdict is that many people are finding this a deal changer. In other cultures, people squat to poop and have no issues. Talk about your “first world problem”. It turns out that our sitting position is not really helping our body with elimination. If your child’s feet don’t quite reach, you might want to experiment with a little footstool in front of the toilet or potty that gets your child in a better position. You can try it too!

If you have a young child, check out the book Itsy bitsy Yoga. Some of the stretching positions might help move things along.

Acupuncture is another option. Here are some pressure points that you can try (you can also try these when you’re back up at step 1 or 2, but you can keep at it).

Red Flags

There are some things to watch for that deserve a call to your pediatrician:

  • Any constipation that is associated with weakness, leg fatigue, or changes in walking or balance deserves medical attention, as these symptoms can signal an underlying neurologic or spine issue rather than simple stool withholding.

  • Constipation that has been present since birth or began in the first week of life - this can occasionally point to conditions like Hirschsprung disease or metabolic disorders. Even though most families will have noticed changes later in childhood, it’s still worth noting for anyone who feels their child “never had normal stools” from the beginning.

  • Your pediatrician would also want to hear about constipation that’s resistant to clean-outs or doesn’t respond to appropriate doses of stool softeners and daily maintenance therapy.

  • Persistent tummy pain, vomiting, poor weight gain, or blood in the stool outside of small fissures should also raise an eyebrow.

  • And if your child has frequent urinary accidents, severe bloating, or stool leakage despite treatment, they may need at least a check-in. The is often a connection between urinary tract infections and constipation. If someone is having frequent UTIs it is absolutely worth looking into their poop frequency and consistency.

If you happen to be reading this from the toilet….time to get up!

Yes, I had permission to use this photo!


Saturday, November 1, 2025

Time to FALL back/ Dealing with Seasonal affective Disorder

 Here’s a reminder that the clocks change tonight. I am NOT a fan.

For those of you who have been reading my posts over the years, you might recall that my husband Sandy catches me every single time by starting the process early.

Most of the clocks now automatically switch, which takes some of the fun out of it, but there are still some that need to be manually shifted.

I feel like Charlie Brown and the football. I should have been expecting it, but this morning when I glanced over at the clock on our microwave I did a double take that it displayed 9:00 am when I was sure it was later. (which of course it was!)

And tomorrow I know that we can count on the following conversation:

.“It feels later”

“I hate how dark it is”

“Is it bedtime yet?”

Seasonal affective disorder is a real thing. People with a history of any mood disorders are the most at risk, but anyone can be impacted by some form of seasonal ‘blahs’.

Latitude can be a significant predictor of winter blues because it directly impacts the amount of sunshine that you are exposed to. The further north you live, the more likely you are to feel the effects of the decreased hours of daylight.

While classic depression symptoms are often characterized by poor appetite and insomnia, seasonal affective disorder (SAD) is the opposite. It mirrors hibernation and tends to have people both eating and sleeping more. Carbs and a nap, sound familiar?

Chinese Medicine and Winter

I have always been intrigued when it comes to Traditional Chinese Medicine and its approach to the changing seasons. TCM believes that by harmonizing oneself with the seasons, rather than fighting them, you can stay healthier. There are several key factors:

Warm/cooked food.

It is important to limit intake of cold and raw foods. Instead double down on nourishing soups and stews. Incorporating spices like cinnamon, ginger, cloves and turmeric can add warmth and comfort.

One of my best friends, Anita Curry, who is an acupuncturist in the Denver area, adds that if you are hooked on smoothies consider defrosting any frozen ingredients the night before. Drain well in the morning before adding the blender. Consider adding some of those warming spices to the smoothie. Avoid adding ice to your drinks.

Hunker down and stay warm.

SF Acupuncturist Dr Den says to take particular care to keep your neck, shoulders, low back and feet warm. Foot soaks can be a really nice way to relax the mind and warm up the body during the coldest months of the year. Soaking feet can be a fun and relaxing family activity!

Aside from the foot bath, there are lots of microwavable heating packs that you can toss over your shoulders.

Turn attention inward

Find some creative activities that you can do indoors. This is also a great time to find a new relaxing hobby and/or to learn how to meditate.

For as long as I can remember Sandy and I have been talking about learning how to paint in the style of Bob Ross and his Joy of Painting. Maybe this winter we will finally invest in some easels and some oil paints and see if we can follow directions. (this is an update of a post from several years ago and we still haven’t gotten started, sigh…)

Slow down

Exercise is very important, but gentle ways to move your body, such as yoga, or walking are better than pushing yourself with extreme aerobics. Give yourself permission to have a “do nothing’ day once in a while.

Hygge

Across the globe from China, in Scandinavia where they also have long winter nights, they have the concept of Hygge.

Hygge is about creating a cozy and serene environment. It also focuses on slowing down, being present in the moment and connecting with loved ones. I notice quite a bit of overlap between that and TCM.

To create your nest

  • Use soothing low lights.

  • Break out the candles that have a scent that appeals to you

  • Invest in some soft, snuggly throws and blankets for the couch

  • Put on music that elevates your mood.

  • Keep a gratitude journal that helps keep you focused on feeling cozy, rather than the cold drizzle outside

  • If you are using your fireplace, make sure your chimney has been cleaned recently. You don’t want to find out the squirrels have built a nest in there. Also check the air quality to make sure it isn’t a ‘spare the air’ day.

  • Make sure you have a working smoke detector and carbon dioxide monitor

    (Yes, I did this needlepoint…but NOT when I had young kids underfoot)

Boosting your immune system

  • Just like animals load up on calories and fat before heading into hibernation, we also need to be aware of bolstering our reserves.

  • If you are open to acupuncture or chiropractor, book a session to give a boost to your immune systems!

  • Make sure you have a clean working humidifier, elderberry, zinc and manuka honey on hand in case you end up catching one of the classic viruses that tend to make the rounds during this time of year.

  • There is a connection between mood and Vitamin D. It is tough to get enough from a standard diet and even more challenging to get it from the sunlight in the wintertime. I strongly recommend taking a supplement.

  • Moisturize!!! I know that this isn’t directly related to your immune system, but lots of folks suffer from very dry skin in the winter time and that can lead to itching and eczema flare ups.

Action plan for treating SAD

Even though it feels tempting, try not to let yourself sleep for longer than 8.5/9 hours. Try to get on a schedule that maximizes the daylight. Usually this means waking up early. At the very least raise the shades and let some light into your room.

Getting more light is essential! If you don’t have natural light, there are a wide array of artificial light options. My sister Amy lived in Alaska for many years and absolutely relied on her alarm clock that gradually lit up the room in the morning. She also made sure to get outside for a daily walk around lunchtime and felt that that made a huge difference. Having a dog is a plus. They will make sure that the walk happened, regardless of the weather.

If you are really in a dark place, (pun intended) and none of the above suggestions are feeling helpful, it is absolutely worth checking in with a therapist. There should be NO stigma associated with getting support for your mental health. Some folks will benefit from antidepressants.

Hoping that you all can lean into the coziness of the season.


Friday, October 17, 2025

RSV 2025 When to worry/How to manage/ Clear up vaccine confusion

 RSV 2025

Historically, severe RSV disease was the number one reason babies under 12 months old were admitted to hospitals in the US. With the new RSV shots, that number may be changing.

November is typically the start of RSV season but it has come earlier for the past couple of years. Some seasons feel more intense than others. Just two years ago there were so many cases that nationwide, some children’s hospitals were having trouble finding room for all the sick kids. Last year wasn’t quite as bad. We shall see what this season has in store.

This post will review

  • What is RSV?

  • When do you need to worry?

  • Symptomatic treatment

  • How is it spread and what is the exposure period?

  • Tips to prevent

  • Testing

  • The RSV shots for babies

  • The RSV vaccine for pregnant moms

  • FAQ (including daycare, siblings and nursing moms)

What is RSV disease?

Respiratory syncytial (sin-SI-shul) virus, or RSV, is NOT new. It is a common, seasonal virus that without the confirmation of a positive test, may often simply be considered an especially bad cold. Like most viruses, it ranges in its severity from case to case. More than 50% of all children will get their first RSV infection by age 2, and 90-100% will have had it by age 3. In other words, RSV infection is a matter of when, not if. Let me repeat - I am sorry to say, but your child is likely to get this! No need to freak out…keep reading.

RSV often settles in the bronchioles. These are the little airways in the lungs that lead to the microscopic alveoli, the place where oxygen is pulled into the blood. They’re very deep, hence the deepness of the RSV cough.

Source: https://www.afterhourskids.com/symptoms/bronchiolitis-and-rsv

The virus causes these little airways to get clogged with mucus, making it difficult for air to pass. This is part of why the virus is so much worse for younger kids. Their smaller airway gets clogged more easily.

Some studies show that somewhere between 25-40% of young infants with the RSV virus will end up having bronchiolitis or pneumonia. That is a scary statistic, but to balance it out, here is some reassuring data: in the US, 99.4% of kids under 5, and 98.5% of kids under 6 months will not need to be hospitalized with RSV. By far, the majority of cases can be safely managed at home.

With RSV, not only do you have a runny nose, sniffling and sneezing, but you also have a harsh, deep cough and fever. You know the wretched colds that knock you flat! We actually can almost diagnose it just by hearing the distinctive cough. It is deep, wet and sounds like it hurts.

RSV comes on slowly, unlike the flu that usually has a sudden ‘hit by a truck’ onset. Generally the first signs are runny nose and decreased appetite. The cough comes along a few days later. It is also common to have mild to moderate fevers that can come and go for several days.

The symptoms are usually at their peak at the 3-5 day mark, but often last 8-10 days total. Once the majority of the symptoms have resolved, it is common for the cough to linger for several weeks. Mentally prepare for 21 days of coughing. As long as it is clear that you are moving in the right direction, that cough usually just needs time, patience, hydration and adequate sleep. It will pass.

Unfortunately RSV is not one of those viruses that is ‘one and done’. Sadly it takes multiple exposures before you develop immunity. Adults don’t get as seriously ill, but they still get it and are in for a miserable week. Most folks get RSV about 8 times until they finally seem to be not as vulnerable!

It spikes again in older folks when the immunity tends to wane. It can sweep through retirement communities, so be cautious for the older adults in your life as well. While hospitalizations for RSV are less frequent than those due to flu or covid, the likelihood for invasive ventilation or death from RSV is double the number from the flu and about the same as covid (fortunately there is now a vaccine for people over 60).

When to worry

Severe RSV disease symptoms usually include some abnormal breathing but there are some specific things to watch out for.

As Dr. Ted says, “Respiratory distress looks like your kid ran a baby marathon. It’s not subtle, and kids are not happy.” We worry when:

  • The skin is sucking in between or under the ribs with inspiration. These are called retractions.

  • The nostrils might be flaring out, and the baby’s head might be bobbing up and down.

  • The belly might be pulling in and out dramatically with breaths.

  • They might be gasping or grunting

  • There might be a bluish color around the mouth or fingernails

  • There might be coughing or wheezing that feels constant

  • The rate of breathing is fast. Breaths per minute vary by age. To get a baseline, try counting breaths when your kid is calm. It is fine to do it while they are sleeping. Count for 30 seconds and multiply by 2.

Also, check out the Tik Tok that Dr. Ted and I did. Seeing what labored breathing actually looks like is worth 1000 words

(if someone had told me a few years ago that I would be doing Tik Tok, I would not have believed them).

If you are reading this and your child is actually one of the few kids who is not coughing and doesn’t have a fever, we strongly recommend making note of what their normal breathing looks like before they get sick. Lift their shirt and get a baseline assessment.

Labored breathing is usually pretty obvious, but hydration is another big concern that sometimes gets missed. Warning signs include:

  • Dry mouth with cracked lips

  • Crying without tears

  • Urinating less often (smaller volume diapers that are happening a normal number of times per day are okay)

A dehydrated kid is almost never playing happily. They usually seem pretty droopy.

It is normal for the appetite to be very off. We don’t even worry if kids lose a bit of weight from a week of pathetic eating. They will gain it back when they are recovered. However if they are not drinking adequately, they may need to get checked to see if they need to get an IV for some hydration and nourishment.

Having an elevated fever is a symptom that often gets the parents the most worried. In general our attitude is that fevers are part of the package and can usually be managed with fever reducing meds or a tepid bath.

If the fever is making your child fussy and not responding to medication (meaning it isn’t coming down an hour after fever-reducing medications) or it is lasting longer than 5 days, then we would want to have your kid checked. This could be a sign that the RSV has turned into an ear infection and/or pneumonia (high fevers over 102 that respond to medications can usually wait for the next day to be evaluated. Click the link for more on fever management).

Bottom line - If your child is having trouble breathing, or significant trouble feeding, they may need to be hospitalized for a night or two for fluids, oxygen and observation.

Symptomatic Treatment

For mild cases, time tends to be the great healer. Your medical team can simply suggest the same symptomatic treatment and supportive care that we would do for any bad cold and cough.

Treat the fever as needed. Fevers need treatment if they’re interfering with your child’s ability to hydrate or sleep. These kids tend to look pretty miserable. If they are just warm but happy and drinking, they don’t require medication.

If you need some tips and trick getting the medicine in check out this post

If your child is having trouble eating because of all the congestion, try doing some clearing about ten minutes before a feeding.

To clear the nose, squirt some saline, xlear nose spray, or breast milk in each nostril. Next step is to suck it back out with either a Nose Frida/ aspirator or the Neil Med Naspira. I think these products are easier to use than the standard bulb aspirators. Some parents swear by the Oogie bearThis is a safe little scoop that can safely get into the nostril and remove the more stubborn boogers.

It is also helpful to keep their heads elevated. They may be more comfortable on a bit of an incline. Try to raise the mattress a bit. You can do this by putting a towel underneath or place thin books under two of the legs of the crib. For older kids, add an extra pillow. The American Academy of Pediatrics guidelines specify not to raise the head more than 10% when they are sleeping and you are not keeping an eye on them. If they’re napping but you’re in the room keeping an eye on them, you can raise the bed to 30% for easier breathing.

Let them sit in a steamy bathroom, and use a humidifier at night. Increase fluids during the day.

Warm fluids are great. For kids older than a year, honey is terrific. I especially like the manuka honey. Have a little tea party, invite the teddy bears. Boys can have tea parties, too. This can also be a good way to encourage them to drink.

If your little one is having a rough time your doctor may do a one-time trial of a nebulizer or inhaler to see if it helps. Some children may be prescribed steroids.

Traditional Chinese medicine can be very helpful to some as the infection runs its course. Dr. Den of the Acupuncture Den in SF keeps high quality pediatric herbal tinctures stocked in her office, and encourages the families in her practice to keep a bottle or two on hand, as they are most effective when used at the first signs of trouble. While some of the tinctures are highly specific, others can be used more generally (when you know your child is getting sick but you’re not sure yet what’s going on). In terms of the common cold, the flu, and RSV, the two tinctures Dr. Den recommends to keep in your medicine cabinet are CQ Jr (perfect for the first signs of illness) and Lung Qi Jr. (if it starts to move into the chest).

Here is Nurse Judy’s blog post with her anecdotal list of things you can do to boost and protect your immune system.

How is RSV spread and what is the exposure period?

This is NOT spread the same way as COVID which easily spreads through the air. RSV spreads through heavy droplets:

  • An infected person coughs or sneezes

  • You get virus droplets from a cough or sneeze in your eyes, nose, or mouth

  • You have direct contact with the virus, like kissing the face of a child with RSV

  • You touch a surface that has the virus on it, like a doorknob, and then touch your face before washing your hands.

According to the CDC, people infected with RSV are usually contagious for 3 to 8 days and may become contagious a day or two before they start showing signs of illness. However, some infants, and people with weakened immune systems, can continue to spread the virus even after they stop showing symptoms, for as long as 4 weeks.

Common Sense Advice on Infectious Containment

  • Wash your hands before touching your child.

  • Make sure others wash up too.

  • Clean toys, crib rails, and any other surfaces your baby might touch.

  • Try to keep your baby away from crowds.

  • Avoid anyone with a cold or fever. Snotty nosed toddlers are the biggest carriers. See suggestions below for dealing with this circumstance.

  • Don’t let anyone smoke near your baby. Tobacco smoke exposure can increase the risk of severe RSV disease.

After the Illness

If your child is unfortunate enough to get a nasty case of RSV, it may take a few weeks for the lungs to calm down. Many of them have an extra tough winter season.

After recovery, the lungs are unfortunately sensitive for a couple months. Every new cold seems to re-trigger the rattling in the chest, and some children can develop what sounds like a “wheeze” with illnesses. This doesn’t always mean that they have asthma.

Testing

There is a rapid test (a swab to the nose) that many offices can do to see if it is RSV or not. Usually they will test for flu and covid while they are at it. Believe it or not, some unfortunate kids can have more than one of those at the same time!

Unless your child is looking really sick, it is not always necessary to drag your kid in to get an official diagnosis since it doesn’t necessarily change the approach. Since RSV is a virus, the treatments are usually simply those listed above. Antibiotics would not be appropriate unless it progresses to a secondary infection.

That said, having an official diagnosis is sometimes helpful to know what to expect. Remember, RSV lasts a long time. Knowing that RSV is the cause of your symptoms can help you to avoid unnecessary antibiotics from an eager prescriber. It also never hurts to have the ears checked and the lungs listened to.

The RSV shot for infants

An RSV shot called nirsevimad (Beyfortus) is a novel shot for all newborns entering their first RSV season (historically winter or fall). It gives about 5+ months of protection and in full term newborns it decreases the chances of needing to go to a doctor for RSV by about 74%, and decreases the need for hospitalization by about 62%. These numbers are even higher when studied in preemies (29 to 35 weeks).

Beyfortus is not an immunization; it’s a pre-made antibody (it’s been approved as a medication). This is an important distinction, because unlike other childhood vaccines, it doesn’t stimulate the immune system. A typical tetanus shot gives a small piece of the tetanus bacteria to the immune system. In response, the immune system mounts an attack, which leads to the “yucky” feelings we get with shots: achiness, fatigue, sometimes even fevers. Beyfortus, as a pre-made antibody, just gives the immune system the final product. You get to skip all the steps in between, and all the accompanying side effects. The most common side effect is a small rash at the site of injection, which occurs in less than 1% of kids who get the shot.

Who gets Beyfortus?

The FDA approved Beyfortus for all children under 12 months old. It’s advised that infants get it right at the beginning of their first RSV season. It has been studied and is safe to give in the hospital after birth, during the first few days of life. It’s only 1 shot, there are no boosters.

The RSV shot for adults

There is also an RSV shot for adults called Abrysvo or Arexvy (who comes up with these names?)

These vaccines are available for folks over 60 who are more at risk for severe RSV. It is fine to get it at the same time as other vaccines.

Abrysvo is also approved for pregnant people. When given to someone who is pregnant the primary goal is to protect the fetus. The placenta loves antibodies, so any immune system activity in mom often goes to the baby ten-fold. When given between 32 and 36 weeks gestation, the RSV vaccine for pregnant people is able to decrease the rate of severe disease in babies by about 80% in the first 3 months of life, and more than 50% after 6 months. Moms can get the RSV vaccine at the same time as others, such as flu, Tdap and Covid.

Abrysvo or Beyfortus, which to get, or both?

Because nothing is ever simple, in most cases the decision needs to be made as to whether or not mom gets the shot or waits for the baby to get it.

  • Pregnant parents are advised to get the RSV vaccine for themselves between 32 and 36 weeks gestation during RSV season because protection takes 2 weeks to pass from mother to baby through the placenta. In most of the country, RSV season is considered to be from September to January.

  • Because of the 2-week delay in immunity for babies, anyone born before 34 weeks, or within 2 weeks of parental vaccination, are all advised to get Beyfortus.

  • If mom got her RSV vaccine and the baby was born 2 weeks or more later, the baby should not need Beyfortus.

Frequently asked questions

When can my little one go back to school?

Keeping your child home because they have a mild runny nose or lingering cough is not reasonable. However, kids with fevers and/or copious mucus should stay home.

I am nursing, do I need to stop? Can I still be around the baby?

Nursing moms who test positive should still continue to nurse their babies. This includes newborns. Just wear a mask and do thorough and frequent hand washing (and we are so sorry if you are dealing with this).

Do I need to keep my kids apart from each other?

Sigh, this is SO hard. It is almost impossible to quarantine family members. If there is an infant in the house, we would try hard to keep toddlers who have been exposed at least 6 feet apart (sneezing distance) from the baby. No kissing or hugging. Put them in charge of the ‘magic soap’ otherwise known as hand sanitizer. Tell them to make sure that anyone who is having direct contact with their new baby needs to use the magic soap first. Maybe furnish them with a new baby doll that they can cuddle with instead.

Dr Ted is currently starting to see a mild uptick in RSV cases. If you want to track the numbers for your location, click here

In normal times the site is updated weekly, That might be impacted by the current turmoil at the CDC.

California numbers are still being reported weekly